the senate is debating the defeat of america in iraq.
the republicans want a 60% vote. the democrats want a 51% vote.
the democrats know that they cannot get a 60% vote that is why they want a 51% vote.
the democrats are mad at the vice-president for having lunch with the republicans almost everyday.
if we retreat out of iraq, then those 3500 men and women will have died for no reason. just as the democrats and gene are saying so now.