the senate is debating the defeat of america in iraq.

the republicans want a 60% vote. the democrats want a 51% vote.

the democrats know that they cannot get a 60% vote that is why they want a 51% vote.

the democrats are mad at the vice-president for having lunch with the republicans almost everyday.

if we retreat out of iraq, then those 3500 men and women will have died for no reason. just as the democrats and gene are saying so now.
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on Jul 18, 2007
if we retreat out of iraq, then those 3500 men and women will have died for no reason.


OHHHH, so it WASN'T our objective to get rid of Saddam Hussein?

I wish you Republicans would make up your minds. I'm getting damn tired of wasting paper rewriting these victory banners over and over again!
on Jul 18, 2007
i believe only about 500 died trying to take out Saddam, the others have died trying to stabilize Iraq
on Jul 18, 2007
Nice job Danielost. Next we should work on punctuation!

To the point though, they died to make the world a better place for the Iraqi people. Unfortunately, since the beginning that was impossible. If you replace a dictatorship with a democracy, you have the same problem that we had when slavery ended - a class of people with nothing, and no way to get anything due to the discrimination against them. Also, you have a class of people that have been oppressed for so many years, that they don't really know what to do with freedom except try to take everything they couldn't have before. It's very hard to compromise with a group like that.

Anyway, democracy is not easy. People like to think it is, but it's not. You have to learn what the system should be used for, and what powers the government should have.
on Jul 18, 2007
i know that it isn't easy or safe.

but i am not the one advocating leaving them in the lurch.

in Washington's first term of office i believe he put down 5 revolts. because of the change in government. ie for the first 12 years we had a weak Central government. Washington represented the change to a strong Central government.
on Jul 18, 2007
I don't think it's our job to decide who's revolting in Iraq, it's Iraq's job. So let's let them worry about it.