That's pretty sick, sis.

I echo your sentiment - stop dicking around with our boys and bring them out of the quagmire they're in right now.

I don't give a damn what this war was for - safety (bullshit in my opinion) or oil (a much more plausible option), but come on. We've created a culture that's obsessed with the use of military force first and foremost. That's not what the Founding Fathers intended (trite but true) . . . until we realize that military force is supposed to be the last tool we should use, we're gonna keep doing this again and again.

Vietnam ended only thirty years ago. How quickly we forget.

---Adnauseum

I hate this argument; how come you lefties never said this shit about the Soviet Union, with their endless parades of missiles, tanks and soldiers, filing past the Politburo members and Sec. General? How come you never call the Chinese warmongers? They do it, too. Why don't you? Because Communists are lefties, too. The lefties shoot down American military force, but say nothing at all about any Communist nation's militarism and totalitarianism. This makes you traitors. All of you. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
No one in this country WANTS to use military force "first and foremost" that's a great, big crock and you know it. Tell me where you get this mindset, please. I really wanna know.

---adnauseum

Yeah...man, this is true; just look at all the devastating terrorist attacks in America, alone! OOPS! There aren't any! Keep trying, adnaus. The more this gets said, the stupider it makes the speaker look.
The sooner we come home without finishing the job, the sooner there WILL be attacks here. The sooner the Democrats shut the hell up and stop trying valiantly to lose the war for us, the sooner the military can cut loose, win, and come home.

I hate that you dismiss the validity of my argument so quickly. Go pick up The New American Militarism: How Americans are Seduced by War by Andrew Bacevich. Not that it will open your narrow mind, but you should read it anyway.

Oh, and one more thing, rightwinger - how the hell does me being a "lefty" (which, let's face it, I'm really not all that much) make me a communist totalitarian and a traitor?

By your logic, you're a fascist, nazi traitor yourself.

Go suck a goat, partisan hack.

Sorry. That's how I see it.

Or f*ck a donkey. Haha.

Also, Afghanistan has an 'h' in it.

We're supposed to be a better country than that. We used to be. Believe me if the best defense you can come up with is that China and Russia are doing the same thing, we are really in a sad state.



Oops, the terrorists that attacked our country were Saudis and I seem to remember a photo opp with Bush holding hands with Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah.



The Republicans controlled the White House and the Congress for the FOUR years that the Iraq war has been going on. Explain to me how the Democrats are losing the war.

the democrats are not losing the war but they want to. so that they can be elected in 2008

In turn, Bush wants to keep this shitstorm going so that someone else can clean up his mess when the Democrat gets elected in 2008 . . .

non of which is a good reason to belittle the troops

the people in control of the house and senate are the same ones that spit on the vietnam viets when they returned

daniel: ??

where in the world did you hear or read that ANYONE, Democrats in particular, belittling the troops?

When are you blind supporters of this war shut up and face the reality? your trick of hiding behind the troops is an old hat by now. stop using the troops as your cover. they deserve more honorable status than being your hiding screen.

The troops are under a military code, they go where the CIC sends them.NO questions asked. if they ask, they get court-martialed, when would you understand that? or are you playing dumb?

the cartoons of TW says it all. wake up and stop the nonsense.

my goodness .... after all that and you still saying these stupid things????

lefties, defeatists, traitors,... that is all you have?