Voyager had the help of a Borg.

works of fiction are not realistic.

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Heh ...

Yea, I used to really love the trek... well, I loved enterprise: TNG the most... the rest were too rehashed, the earlier were too low tech, and the new enterprise one was full of ret conning and stupid time travel plots, time travel is always epic fail.

I have my own beefs with "Enterprise", and never really cared much for "Voyager". DS9 wasn't too bad, overall. But TNG and TOS....man; I can remember those days as a kid in the 70s, curled up on the floor in my bean bag chair, with a bowl of cheese puffs, watching the originals, over and over again! Yeah, okay....low-tech; but that was part of the charm, man! They've digitally re-done them now, adding in a lot of CGI bells and whistles. Even changed the color of the Enterprise to battleship gray.

The planets all have land masses and oceans, now, too, instead of just being big, pastel-colored balls. I don't like it. Give me the originals.

When TNG premeired, the purist in me was skeptical, but they won me over.

Good job, did you figure that one out all by yourself? Or did someone have to help you with that statement.

TNG and Voyager were my fav's. DS9 isn't bad, but doesn't hold my attn, Enterprise was an absolute mess, I don't know what they were thinking there. Hopefully they have a new series coming sometime in the near future.

wait, was the next generation called "enterprise - the next generation"? because that is what I meant... the "new" enterprise show was shit.

next gen wasn't quite that bad but it didn't hold a candle to the origanal show.

For one thing Picard had the wrong rank.  He should have been an admiral.  The reasons are 1 they built him the flag ship of the fleet.  2 he was doing the job of an admiral.

Kirk's ship was the flag ship too but he had to work to make it such not have it handed to him.

No...."Star Trek: The Next Generation"; "Enterprise" was a completely different show. I'll watch it, but they screwed with the timeline of things, and that bothers me.

For one glaring example, they had phasers; they called them "phase pistols", and the ship-mounted versions were "phase cannons". Okay, and this is nitpicky and goony, I know, but if you watch "The Cage"; the original, unused 1964 pilot, with Jeffery Hunter as Christopher Pike, they had >lasers<. It was changed in the show, because Gene Coon realized that lasers were already a known commodity, even in the 60s, and they wanted the show to be fresh and new. So, they changed it.

Now; Pike commanded the ship for 2 five-year missions, which means "The Cage" takes place approximately 10-12 years before Kirk takes command of the Enterprise, give or take; but Kirk's ship (and Starfleet) had phasers. "Enterprise", on the other hand, takes place about 150 years before Kirk. They had phasers. How about a little continuity? Michael and Denise Okuda wrote an extensive and detailed timeline for all that stuff, so potential writers would have a referent. USE IT!

Another thing; there was an episode where they encountered Romulans; they didn't recognize the ships. Now, if you read the timeline, Earth should just have been coming out of the last of the Romulan Wars at about that time. They should have been all-too-familiar with Romulan ships. Now, I can't remember if they saw or talked to any Romulans in that episode, but that would have been a no-no, too; if you remember, in TOS episode "Blanance of Terror" they encountered a Romulan Bird-of-Prey, and Spock finagled a look inside the ship. They noted that before that time, no one of either race had ever seen the other. The Treaty of Algeron, the document that ended the conflict, was negotiated by subspace radio.

I know, It's just a show; but they KNOW perfectly well that there are obsessive nerds like me out here, who know and keep track of this stuff. "Enterprise" could have been better conceived.

They captured lightning in a bottle again with NexGen, by hiring many of the same staff from the original show; DC Fontana was a 1st season writer; Bill Theiss designed the new uniforms, and there were others. I think NexGen was a better show, but only because they finally had the time and resources to make it what the original could've been. That, better acting and 20 years in SFX advancements made up for what NBC and Desilu missed in the 60s, which was spectacular writing, dialogue and character development.

You make some good points, but don't forget; there were 80 years between the Trek films and NexGen. More than changes in technology and uniform probably occurred, such as in Fleet policies and ranking. Also, I don't believe Kirk's Enterprise was the flagship. I think it was the Potemkin; maybe the Yorktown. Just a nerdy observation.

Rightwinger, those are some examples... there is also the clingon contact, the retarded time travel plot, and many other issues.

It probable was during the serious but in the movies it is called the flagship at least once.  Don't remember which movie tho.

they should have hired some of their more rabid fans to be "canon checkers", they could inform the authors whenever they make such mistakes.

You know, I've often had the same idea. Would that be a cool-ass job, or what? Star Trek fact-checker. I like the title "canon-checker". That would be awesome. But people would thoink you were in the military, or something,inspecting artillery.

let them think that

Canon inspector sounds like a cool job indeed.